Buttons, Bubbles, and Bwomen who want to be pastors

Or “What I thought about tonight on the way home from my cousin’s birthday party.”

1. Friday night Karl and I watched The Curious Case of Benjamin Button. Actually, we started watching it Thursday night and had to pause it about halfway because Mr. Sandman paid us an unexpected visit. I’m not sure if we were really that sleepy or if the story was so boring it couldn’t keep us interested. I shouldn’t speak for Karl. I think he rather enjoyed the movie.

I turned to him after about 45 minutes and said, “Are you as bored as I am?”

To which he replied, “It’s just getting started.” Just getting started? Most movies are halfway over after 45 minutes.

I was so happy to see that baby “Benjamin Button” close his eyes and “die” Saturday night that I jumped out of my chair and said, “It’s only 10:30! My night isn’t totally wasted.”

Oh, I kid. I did like some things. The most interesting parts to me were watching an elder Benjamin act childish and the childhood Benjamin progress through stages of dementia, and the women who cared for him during those times. “Queenie” is the most interesting character of all, but, as with the rest of the characters, she isn’t well-developed. The script has its moments, though I do not think the makers of this movie made the most out of their aging-backwards theme. It could have been so much more if they had tried to do less.

Feel free to disagree with me, but I think “The CC of BB” (with the exception of the whole aging backwards theme and the ending) is simply a very poor copycat version of Forrest Gump. Think about it. You know I’m right.

2. I didn’t share the gospel with anyone this week. I live in a bubble that I desperately need to pop. I go to the grocery store and to church. I know it’s just for a season, but I really ought to make more of an effort to get out more. Then again, there are plenty of people at the store and at church who don’t know Jesus.

3. Today was Sermon on the Mount Saturday. Have you heard of it? I hadn’t either until last week. Go out to a public place and read Jesus’ Sermon on the Mount, Matthew 5, 6, and 7. Just stand there and read it out loud. On the campus of UA there is a spot designated for free speech. Anyone can take his soapbox and start talking without fear of arrest. Our friend Mark was planning to do it today, but the rain was just too much. And no one was out. He’s going to try again soon. Stand up and read? Sounds easy, doesn’t it? I wonder if I could do that.

4. I really don’t know why women desire the role of pastor. Not counting the influence one holds over a group of people, there is nothing about that position that is appealing.

I think teaching a Sunday school class yields all the responsibilities of pastoring: a small flock to look after for a period of time, outreach and in-reach, studying, teaching, making visits, a small amount of counseling, sending postcards and letters. Minus the drama and meetings! It’s perfect!

What if Sunday school teachers weren’t called Sunday school teachers? What if we called them pastors? As in, “I pastor the kindergartners and first graders at my church.” Or, “I’m the pastor of 7th grade girls.” After all, pastoring is what a lot of Sunday school teachers do. That is, if they’re worth their salt.

Maybe more men would step up to teach Sunday school if we called them pastors. That would be a good thing.

Maybe fewer people would volunteer because “pastor” implies a certain amount of education is needed. And then teachers would have a more serious attitude about opening God’s word in front of children and they would over-prepare. And then people raised in church would have a better grasp of what the Bible actually teaches. That would be a good thing.

It’s a serious question; I’m not being sarcastic. Why do you think women desire to be pastors? I agree that many women are gifted communicators and teachers, but why do they want the role of pastor? Is it a power thing? Do they just want someone to listen to what they have to say? Do you think it’s part of the curse to desire those positions of authority, to not be ruled? Do you think they really want to preach?

5. I think if a woman really wants to preach the gospel, then she ought to take a podium and start preaching at her nearest free speech mound or corner. Maybe she could just read her favorite passage of scripture. That’s something I could support. As far as I know, there isn’t a biblical word against that.

8 Comments on “Buttons, Bubbles, and Bwomen who want to be pastors

  1. Good questions about women Leslie! I’m going to have to ponder them after I finish my coffee :0)


  2. Why do you think women desire to be pastors?I think you answered your own question, in part, i.e. they want to be in charge and control. I think for some women, it’s a bit of an “I can, and she be able to do anything a man can.” For others, I do believe it is a desire to shepherd in some way. However, there are many ways to shepherd… like our own families, for instance.I, myself, desire to teach and exhort others in God’s Word. I could do that as a “pastor” but I don’t need to be a pastor to do that. I think some women believe (falsely) that the only way to do that is from the pulpit.I may be disparaging my own gender, but knowing how emotional (and often, petty) women can be, what do you think a female pastor on a church board with other women would look like?I like your observation about “Benjamin Button.” I heard someone else talk about the “Forrest Gump” analogy. I really had no wish to see it, and after your conclusions, I doubt I will watch it.


  3. I agree. Spiritual shepherding is a big part of caring for our families. I wish more women believed that what they do for their families counts as real ministry.What do you think a female pastor on a church board with other women would look like? I have not taken my thinking that far. I wonder if any men would play a part at all. My guess is that most men would not want to be a part of it. How long would it be before men left altogether? I’ve only considered what it may look and sound like with a woman in the pulpit. My mom attends a church that has a female pastor. They do Bible studies written by women for women. Nothing wrong with that, but who is ministering to the men? I need to ask her how many men attend her church these days.


  4. Hi Leslie,I agree with most of this post EXCEPT I loved Benjamin Button. I thought it had some very interesting themes. But maybe I was a bit biased because Cate Blanchett (a fellow Aussie living in Sydney) was in it!


  5. I didn’t see Benjamin Button, so no comment there. But you shared some really good thoughts on women. I think a lot of your observations are probably right – and it is probably a combination of several of those things for each individual woman who expresses the desire to pastor. I really relate to your ‘bubble.’ I struggle with that, too. I’m usually too distracted with just trying to accomplish the trip to the store to strike up a conversation at all, much less share the gospel. I’m not saying it’s right that I’m that way, but it tends to be how I am. I feel a lot of guilt about it. I’ve gotten into a rut where I really don’t know many people outside my church circle, and it’s gotten very hard to break out of that comfort zone.


  6. Nicole, I really wanted to like Benjamin Button because Cate Blanchet was in it! I love her!! She’s incredibly talented and I thought she was great in her role, as usual. I don’t appreciate Brad Pitt so much.I also thought the themes were interesting, but I felt like they tried to do too much, to say too much, to the point that the script became a series of thoughtful one-liners. There were several points at which I thought, “Oh, that’s interesting. I’d like to think about that some more.” But the movie just keeps going and going and the ideas aren’t further explored. Does that make sense?I actually thought about your blog as we watched the movie. The main thing I remembered from your post from when you saw the movie is that you were thankful that God allows us to age physically in the same direction. Amen to that!Rebekah, I actually gave out a tract at the grocery store the other day. As I was taking my receipt, I handed the cashier a tract and said, “This is a gospel tract.” I think next time I’ll add, “Please read it.” It’s an eye-catching tract, too. As we walked away, I heard the young man who was bagging our groceries ask if he could see it. I hope they passed it around.


  7. 1. Haven’t seen it.2. I haven’t, not this past week. I did fumble through the gospel with a young girl at the pregnancy center the week before…and am praying for a similar opportunity today. I feel so incompetent and I am so thankful my competence comes from God!3. Cool.4. I think women want to be pastors because we like being in control. We also don’t like anyone telling us we can’t! We’ve bought the lie of our culture that tells us we can be and do anything and heaven help the man who tells us we can’t because of our gender! I think it does go back to the curse where God tells Eve her desire will be for her husband…and ever since we’ve sought to rule and if not rule, then manipulate…Good thoughts!


  8. God called my friend, who is in her 50’s, to become a pastor! Becky is an extremely quiet, ‘invisible’ type of woman, who doesn’t need or want control. The older I get- the more confident I am of this: The only thing I know for sure is that Jesus shed his blood for me. Guessing why a woman would have a calling that you nor I have had is making a judgment about something we know nothing about. “Tend your own garden”. As for “CC of BB” (I liked that!), it was ok. Creepy at times, different, too long…but ya gotta love Cate! 🙂


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